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<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><title>Z Space Blog - age verification</title><link href="https://zlg.space/blog/" rel="alternate"/><link href="https://zlg.space/blog/feeds/t/age-verification.atom.xml" rel="self"/><id>https://zlg.space/blog/</id><updated>2026-02-12T20:46:00-08:00</updated><entry><title>Discord Server Deprecation</title><link href="https://zlg.space/blog/discord-server-deprecation.html" rel="alternate"/><published>2026-02-12T20:46:00-08:00</published><updated>2026-02-12T20:46:00-08:00</updated><author><name>zlg</name></author><id>tag:zlg.space,2026-02-12:/blog/discord-server-deprecation.html</id><summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Due to &lt;a href="https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally"&gt;Discord's new age verification policy&lt;/a&gt;, I am in the
process of evaluating alternatives that will not be prone to this sort of
enshittification. Communities deserve to have control over the information that
their members share. I had known Discord wasn't a great platform going into it,
but this surpasses my tolerance for bullshit.&lt;/p&gt;
</summary><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Due to &lt;a href="https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally"&gt;Discord's new age verification policy&lt;/a&gt;, I am in the
process of evaluating alternatives that will not be prone to this sort of
enshittification. Communities deserve to have control over the information that
their members share. I had known Discord wasn't a great platform going into it,
but this surpasses my tolerance for bullshit.&lt;/p&gt;


&lt;h1&gt;What's the deal?&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Discord's current approach is to send all your messages through an &lt;abbr title="Large Language Model"&gt;LLM&lt;/abbr&gt; to
"guess" your age with different tells, or to ask users to consent to having
their face scanned and analyzed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This presents a privacy threat. While Discord has indeed had a problem with
grooming and other behavior on its service, there are other ways to combat abuse
that don't require every single user to be prone to this authoritative and
surveillance-enabling requirement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://discord.com/press-releases/update-on-security-incident-involving-third-party-customer-service"&gt;Discord has also suffered a data breach&lt;/a&gt;, just in the last
year. We're supposed to trust a company that can't keep its own records secure?
Get serious. &lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/discord-faces-backlash-over-age-checks-after-data-breach-exposed-70000-ids/"&gt;I'm not alone in seeing this irony.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h1&gt;What's the problem?&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I've told people my age online. It isn't about just age, it's about whether or
not you consent to an automated system determining your social access, and being
sorted into one hat or another based solely on an unthinking machine acting on
metrics. That flies in the face of an open and free Internet, and erodes trust
in these platforms. It also introduces a slippery slope. First, the tech will
be used for age verification. What next? Anti-pornography? DRM-enforcement on
file uploads? Silencing unpopular political viewpoints? Yes, these have all been
seen on other platforms. So, what's stopping this rot from proceeding? How will
Discord distinguish itself from other rot happening across the social media
space? My guess is that they won't. There's an &lt;abbr title="Initial Public Offering"&gt;IPO&lt;/abbr&gt; looming in the future, and if
Reddit is anything to go by, we can count on Discord getting considerably worse
after going public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With this practice becoming more common, it is safe to assume that any
corporate-owned communication medium will eventually submit to surveillance,
analytics, and data brokering to make money, at least in today's America. All in
the interest of "protecting children", something governments have been failing
to do for their entire existence. They have no metrics for "children saved", no 
proof of threats they've neutralized, no evidence that authoritarian practices 
actually solve any of these problems or keep anyone in the general public safer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h1&gt;What's the solution?&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For now, contenders look to be:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matrix&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Movim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mumble&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Root (proprietary)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spacebar&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steam (proprietary)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stoat&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Competition is brewing in this space now, so it's exciting to see who's going
to take the first strike against Discord. I would prefer something I could
self-host, but I don't mind a hosted alternative that I can migrate away from
later.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Discord server will remain around until I either can't run it without 
breaching my privacy, or we find a new thing to migrate to. Until then, people 
should rely on the Twitch channel, Ko-Fi page, or this blog for further news.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h2&gt;A Stop-Gap Option&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you don't already know, I operate a &lt;a href="https://mumble.info"&gt;Mumble&lt;/a&gt; server that
exists precisely for these times where other platforms suck and people need
encrypted comms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Server:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;code&gt;zlg.space&lt;/code&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Port:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;code&gt;64738&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'll see y'all there! You'll need to create what's called a "client certificate"
to connect. (The wizard will guide you through it) That's also your encryption
token, so you can move it around all of your devices and have access to the same
account.&lt;/p&gt;</content><category term="Twitch"/><category term="Discord"/><category term="Privacy"/><category term="age verification"/><category term="Politics"/></entry></feed>